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Does a 30 amp double breaker supply 60 amp to load?
Quick answer: No.
30 amp 240 volt breaker supplies 2 Hot wires to a 30 amp load.
Each wire delivers 30 amps worth of electrons that travel back n forth from one wire, through the load, and into other wire, and then the AC current reverses and the electrons go back other direction, oscillating back and forth, but never delivering more than 30 amp. So maximum at any given moment is 30 amp, never 60.

Note: The back and forth motion of electrons in AC power is what energizes the load.
With 240V, each wire is pushing and pulling electrons together, and is why 240V with 2 Hot wires delivers more power to load, compared with 120 V where only 1 Hot wire is pushing and pulling the electrons.
The design of a load is what determines how many amps it will draw and what breaker is required.
Calculations
Volts x Amps = Watts is a basic electrical formula
Volts (V or E) x amps (A or I) = watts (P or power)

-Let's calculate watts for 120 volt single breaker
 -15 amp single breaker. 120 volts x 15 amps = 1800 watts of power
 -30 amp single breaker. 120 volts x 30 amps = 3600 watts of power.

-Calculate watts for 240 volt double breaker.
-15 amp double breaker. 240 volts x 15 amps = 3600 watts of power
 -30 amp double breaker. 240 volts  x 30 amps = 7200 watts of power.

With 240 volt, the watts or power is doubled  .... Amps are not doubled

Since each leg of 240 volt circuit offers 120 volt potential to ground, then you're getting two legs of out-of-phase 120 volt when you use double breaker, and doing so doubles the voltage and doubles the watts (power), it does not double the amps.

This shows that each leg of 30 amp double breaker delivers 30 amps, and the total number of amps delivered to load is 30 amps, not 60 amps.

Mr Laing emailed a question.
He asked,
Since each side of 30 amp double breaker is 30 amps, is the total 60 amps?


The answer is no.

The calculation shown above using Volts x Amps = Watts proves that amps are not halved, or doubled, instead amps stay at 30 amps but watts or power is doubled when using 240V.
The following explains why.

Generating electric power is accomplished many ways, but renewable sources (wind, solar, batteries etc) must match the power generated by traditional coal, atomic, and gas fired (thermal) power plants and hydroelectric plants that use a rotating generator. Why? Because the grid is currently engineered to deliver specific voltages at a specific frequency, and end-user loads (light, motor, charge cord, refrigerator etc) are manufactured to work with those same standard voltage and frequency of AC power. Frequency is the number of generator rotations per second.
How a rotating generator works: Passing a magnet, or electromagnet, over a conductive material, for example a coil of copper wire, energizes the copper atoms causing lighter weight electrons to come free from heavier weight protons and start jumping from atom to atom and pushing more electrons free in a cascade of electrons going down the wire. Add enough magnetic force, and miles-long wire can be energized. The result is a flow, or current, of electrons available to energize end user loads. Read more

Volts x amps = watts (or power)
Voltage is the force that pushes amperage (or current of electrons) across the wire. Amperage represents the number of electrons.

Voltage generally remains stable throughout the day, but amperage rises and falls, with more electrons flowing when more loads are turned on.
The breaker responds to heat caused by the flow of electrons ... too many electrons on the wire, and it causes the wire to get hot, which trips breaker. It's like having too many cars on the freeway, except with electricity, the breaker trips. So each side of the 30 amp double breaker will allow up to 30 amps. At no time does the breaker carry 60 amps, nor does the load receive 60 amps.
 
In a simplified version of events: As the power plant generator spins around, the electromagnet inside the generator passes over coils of wire, which causes electrons to start moving along the coil. One end of each coil is connected to a transmission line that is energized by the coil. The other ends of the coils are joined together to form the Neutral wire that travels with transmission lines. The Neutral represents a midpoint between coils.

The electrons reverse direction every time the north and south poles of the electromagnet pass over a coil, creating the back-and-forth motion of electrons found in AC power (alternating current). The back-n-forth of electrons is called frequency, cycles, Hz or hertz, and represents the number of rotations per second made by electromagnet. In US and Americas, the frequency is standardized across the grid at 60 Hz, or 60 rotations per second, and likewise, end user products are rated for that frequency.

The electromagnet passes over each coil at a different moment so electrons on one coil are moving different direction from electrons on another coil.
Since each coil is connected to a different transmission line, each wire carries electrons that are going different directions from each other. So when two wires are connected to a load, the electrons flow back and forth, from one wire, then through the load, going to the other wire, then electrons on both wires reverse direction at same moment and flow back through the load again, rapidly changing direction at 60 times per second. This is how power is delivered to a load.

A 30 amp double breaker is made for 240 volt. Each Hot wire in the 240 volt circuit originates from a different coil in the generator. When both wires are connected a load that is rated for 30A 240V, then 30 amps worth of electrons will flow back and forth between each wire. So both wires are working together to push and pull 30 amps worth of electrons through the load, and this doubled effort is how the power or wattage is doubled in a 240V circuit, and also shows that amperage going through load is 30 amp, not 60 amp.

If a single breaker is used, then the voltage is 120V, and amount of power going to load is half of a 240V circuit. Why? 120V uses 1 Hot and a Neutral, instead of 2 Hot wires. The 120V Hot wire comes from a coil in generator, but Neutral comes from a midpoint between different generator coils, and therefore carries 120V which is half of 240V. The 120V circuit delivers half power because 1 Hot and 1 Neutral are not able to push and pull electrons as hard as two Hot wires.
240 volt breakers

If a 30 amp double pole breaker was 15 amps on each leg, then a 20 amp double breaker would be 10 amps on each leg. And a 15 amp double breaker would be 7.5 amps on each leg. There is no 10 amp circuit breaker or 7.5 amp breaker made for residential breaker box.
There are 5-10 amp fuses etc made  for various applications, such as a line fuse for automotive or 12 volt DC breaker for boats.
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